ISVs will love Domino 8.5, and so will customers

June 26 2008

So Bruce Elgort wrote a blog entry about Domino 8.5, XPages, and the issue of backwards compatibility. He brings up some excellent points. Personally, I believe we will see Domino 8.5 adoption be one of the fastest of any prior release. Why?

1. Domino Attachment Object Services (DAOS). We have seen a 50% reduction in database sizes. It works beautifully. Very well designed with some minor beta bugs I am sure will be gone by 8.5.0
2. ID Vault. This will change the way that user IDs are dealt with. It is also the precursor to id-less Notes client use in a future version
3. Updates to the router, disk I/O, and document compression will have significant impact on server performance
4. Domino Configuration Tuner (DCT) will provide some great info about servers
5. XPages

All of those, plus the rest of the features of Domino 8.5 (Auto Groups, Policy Updates, etc) will really provide a very easy to sell to management server upgrade. Serves are far easier to upgrade than clients.

But Bruce, the other issue is that you can put up a single Domino 8.5 server in a Domino server architecture if people want the XPages functionality.

I am the first person that sings backwards compatibility as major reason why Notes & Domino rocks, but XPages changes E V E R Y T H I N G! I think people will be ready to push the envelop a bit here. And those who do not want to work with XPages and DDE, and update their products and tools, are just going to be behind those that make the jump. I already have customers asking me about tools and support for DDE ... and if they do not support it, what are the other options.

As I said before, the 8.5 release, DDE, and XPages is the first revolution we have had in the product since LotusScript and the HTTP server. This is the time to invest. Or be left behind.

7 Responses to “ISVs will love Domino 8.5, and so will customers”

  1. 1) Yancy Lent says:

    From a high level it seems past gold releases of ND were weighted in favor of either the client, dev or server side improvement. This seems to be evenly distributed; based on your bullets and other sources. Something for everyone to be happy about.

  2. 2) John Head says:

    Yancy, I don't have a single thing on there that is client ... performance, federated calendars, roaming, citrix, etc ... I think they are great features, but I believe the Notes 8.5 client roll-out will be totally independant of the server. I think the Domino 8.5 server upgrades are going to be much faster than 8.0 and maybe even 7.

  3. 3) Bruce says:


    Remember the title of my post and the word ISV? We are an ISV trying to sell 3rd party apps to customers. Currently selling our templates to Notes 6.5,7.x and 8.x environments is easy as we run the same code on all those versions. Now for 8.5 we would have to fork out and create two code streams. Not Got it bub?

  4. 4) John Head says:

    Bruce, I get it. I believe that means nothing. You will still be able to sell your apps to customers running 8.5. XPages apps will require 8.5, and I think the things we can build with XPages will drive people to upgrade. I really do believe apps will help drive server upgrades, and pretty easily. Even at the large enterprise customers.

  5. 5) Bruce says:

    So you are saying I should continue to develop for legacy Domino servers and 8.5+ servers right?

  6. 6) John Head says:

    I am saying you can do what you want. Build the way you are now and it will work on 8.5. But I believe there will be a whole new space for applications using XPages. And the demand for them is going to ramp up quickly, and hit full steam at Lotusphere. You can either play or watch. That is everyone's choice.

  7. 7) Bruce says:

    Only time will tell. Back to the real world.

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